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Ceci est une version archivée de LegitimacyIA à 2023-07-12 17:05:12.


Olivier:
Summarize the legitimacy ratings in this form: [network name](x,y,z), where x, y and z are 1 or 0.


ChatGPT :
Facebook (0,0,0), Bitcoin (1,1,0), Google (1,0,0), OpenAI / ChatGPT (1,0,0)

Olivier:
The legitimacy of a network thus evaluated according to these three criteria gives an idea of ​​the asymmetries between agents created or maintained by the design and management of the network. In all cases, these asymmetries are both informational and monetary. Try to summarize for the four networks we looked at, the nature of the information that is at stake.

ChatGPT :
For Facebook, the information at stake is primarily personal and social, such as user profiles, interactions and content. For Google, in-game information is primarily related to Internet search and browsing, such as queries, results, and search histories. For Bitcoin, the information at stake is primarily financial, such as transactions, balances, and wallet histories. For OpenAI / ChatGPT , the information at stake is mostly linguistic and contextual, like conversations, training data, and language models.

Olivier :
In these four cases, the information is structured like "graphs". How could we qualify these graphs with a simple adjective reflecting the nature of the information at stake?

ChatGPT :
For Facebook, the graph is social. For Bitcoin, it is financial. For Google, it's search. For OpenAI / ChatGPT , it is linguistic.

Olivier:
What types of networks (centralized or distributed) are used to manage these different types of graphs?

ChatGPT :
Facebook and Google use centralized networks to manage personal data and search graphs. Bitcoin uses a distributed network to manage a graph of financial transactions. Open AI/ ChatGPT uses a centralized network to manage a linguistic data graph.

Olivier:
Can we say that these graphs held in these networks are representations, or meta-representations, of human relations in the broad sense? Can we make an analogy with the principle of perspective discovered in the Renaissance allowing painters to represent a landscape on the surface of a painting?

ChatGPT :
Yes, these graphs can be said to represent human relationships in a broad sense, as they are used to capture and organize information about the interactions and connections between individuals in the real world. However, it is important to note that these graphs are not complete or exact representations of these relationships, but rather computational metaphors that allow them to be modeled and manipulated.

ChatGPT :
With regard to the analogy with perspective, it is possible to make a comparison between the way in which painters use perspective to represent a landscape on a flat surface and the way in which networks use graphs to represent human relations on computer support. However, there are important differences between the two types of representations: perspective is an artistic tool that allows you to give an illusion of depth on a flat surface, while graphs are computer tools that allow you to model and manipulate objects. data on human relations.

Olivier :
Can we compare the fact that these models and these manipulations of data on human relations retroact on these relations and modify their nature, and the fact that the representations in perspective giving the illusion of a depth retroact on the perception and the imagery developed by human beings of their physical environment, their relative positions and the distances that separate them?

ChatGPT :
It is possible to make an analogy between the modeling and manipulation of data on human relations in these networks and the representations in perspective in painting. In both cases, there is a manipulation of the data to give a certain illusion, a certain perspective. In the case of networks, it is an illusion of human relationships while in the case of painting, it is an illusion of depth. These two types of manipulations can have consequences on the perception and imagination of individuals, by modifying their vision of their environment and their relationships with others.

Olivier :
So there would exist in the networks forms of perspectives similar to the optical perspective of the Renaissance? According to this analogy, what would be their characteristics in the case of centralized networks and distributed networks? In both cases, can we speak of a "vanishing point" or something else that plays a similar role?

ChatGPT :
It can effectively be said that there are forms of perspective similar to Renaissance optical perspective in gratings. In centralized networks, these perspectives are often dictated by a central entity that controls access to the data and the models used to represent it. This entity can be considered as the vanishing point of perspective, because it de-establishes the rules and limits of representation. The perspectives of network agents are often limited by that of the central entity.

In distributed networks, the perspectives are more diverse and depend on the agents participating in the network. There is no single vanishing point, but rather a multiplicity of viewpoints that can coexist. The perspectives of each agent are influenced by the perspectives of the other agents, thus creating a system of reciprocal relations. Perspectives can be more fluid and adaptable, but they can also be more complex to understand and manage.

In sum, in centralized networks, the perspective is dictated by a central entity that controls access to data and the models used to represent it, while in distributed networks, the perspectives are more diverse and depend on the agents that participate in the process. network, there is no single vanishing point.

Olivier:
Can we consider in the case of distributed networks that there is no "vanishing point" in the physical sense as in the case of centralized networks but that a logical entity recognized by all users plays a similar role? ?

ChatGPT :
Yes, we can consider that in distributed networks there is no physical vanishing point, but rather a logical entity recognized by all users which plays a role similar to that of a vanishing point. This logical entity can be the consensus protocol that maintains network integrity, or the consensus algorithms that allow users to agree on valid transactions. This logical entity is a kind of common point of reference that allows users to agree on the truth of the network. This way of seeing things is different from that of centralized networks where authority is held by one or a few entities and where the vanishing point is the command center.

Olivier :
In the case of Renaissance optical perspective, the vanishing point represents infinity, and therefore the unknowable. It is homologous to the painter's eye through the geometric construction that structures the entire representation. Can we consider that there is a similar pattern of non-optical, or "anoptical" perspectives of networks?

ChatGPT :
Yes, we can consider that there is a similar pattern between the optical perspectives and the anoptical perspectives of the networks. In the case of centralized networks, the vanishing point could be compared to the centralized entity that controls and manages information and data, which is often invisible to users. This entity is homologous to the painter's eye through the geometric construction that structures the entire representation. In the case of distributed networks, there is no vanishing point in the physical sense, but there is a logical entity recognized by all users that plays a role similar to that of the centralized entity in centralized networks. This logical entity can be compared to the eye of the painter in distributed networks,

Olivier:
In the anoptical perspectives of networks, who is precisely "the painter" and what is the nature of his "point of view"?

ChatGPT :
In the anoptical perspectives of networks, there is not necessarily a single identifiable "painter". The point of view may vary according to the different users and actors involved in the design, management and use of the network. The point of view can also change over time, depending on changes to the network. The nature of this point of view will depend on the structure of the network and its criteria of legitimacy. In centralized networks, the point of view can be that of a dominant entity that controls the access and use of data, whereas in distributed networks, it can be the result of collaboration between different agents.

Olivier :
Can we consider that at the level of the "vanishing point" of the network, or of the logical entity playing this role, homologous from the fluctuating cognitive point of view of the multiple painter of whom we have just spoken, a kind of infinite and unknowable specific to the complexity and unpredictability of human relations?

ChatGPT :
Yes, the anoptic perspectives of networks can be considered to reflect the complexity and unpredictability of human relationships. The "vanishing point" or logical entity that performs a similar role is where this complexity is condensed and information is aggregated to provide a holistic view of human relationships. This can be seen as a reflection of the infinite and unknowable inherent in human relationships, as it is impossible to understand and foresee everything in terms of social relationships.

Olivier :
Let's go back to the "legitimacy" of the networks and the criteria for evaluating it that we talked about. By remaining in the analogy of "anoptical perspectives", according to you, what influence, a greater or lesser legitimacy can it have on the evolution of a network and on its co-evolution with other networks?

ChatGPT :
A greater legitimacy of a network can have a positive impact on the evolution of this network by allowing a broader participation and a more effective collaboration between the various agents of the network. It can also facilitate co-evolution with other networks by allowing more fluid interactions and avoiding conflicts due to inequalities or injustices in participation.

On the other hand, insufficient legitimacy can lead to participation and trust issues, which can hinder the growth and dynamics of the network, as well as its ability to co-evolve with other networks. Finally, insufficient legitimacy could also reinforce inequalities and injustices in participation, and thus hinder the global co-evolution of networks.
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